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philaix
14/11/2005, 12h07
salut à tous,

Aujourd'hui débutent les premiers essais sbk sur le circuit ricardo-tormo de Valence.

Tout les pilotes et teams ont été conviés à ces essais qui lance le début d'une série suivie par le Qatar en décembre et Philip Island en Janvier.

Les supersport seront également de la partie.

J'espere qu'on arrivera à avoir les chronos..

A suivre...d'autant plus que Kawa prépare une monture 2006 que Walker a trouvé tres performante aprés ses essais au japon. Je ne sais pas par contre si les hommes verts rouleront avec..

chrisgaz
14/11/2005, 12h13
aarrfff!!!! j espere que l on pourra avoir les chrono, pour voir ou se trouve notre regis national....

nico
14/11/2005, 16h02
Allez Régis, montre leur qui est le patron.

nico
14/11/2005, 16h13
Voici la news officielle trouvée sur le site worldsbk.com :


Last season’s World SBK Championship finished just over a month ago, but riders will soon be back on the track in preparation for the 2006 season. On Monday 14th and Tuesday 15th November, the Ricardo Tormo circuit in Valencia, Spain, will be hosting two days of testing organised by tyre manufacturer Pirelli, who are about to enter their third season as the championship’s sole supplier. The event will be the first official test of next season’s tyres, and will be followed up by further sessions in Qatar in December and Phillip Island in January. All SBK development teams will be taking part, plus a number of Supersport and national championship teams.
This first session of testing is an event not to be missed, precisely because it will attract all the teams and riders that will be doing battle in the coming season. The return of Troy Bayliss on Ducati is eagerly anticipated, as are the debuts of James Toseland with Honda and Regis Laconi with Kawasaki. Other test participants will include Lorenzo Lanzi, newly promoted to the official Ducati team, the reconfirmed 2005 champion Troy Corser and team mate Yukio Kagayama (Suzuki), Noriyuki Haga and Andrew Pitt (Yamaha), Chris Walker (Kawasaki), and Karl Muggeridge (Honda). Fonsi Nieto (Kawasaki) will be there too, with the Petronas team’s new boy Craig Jones, while Steve Martin is still convalescing after his kidney operation.
The Supersport teams that have signed up for the November tests include Suzuki with Javi Fores, Honda with 2005 champion Sebastien Charpentier, Kawasaki with Stephane Chambon and Pere Riba, Ducati with their new acquisition Niccolò Canepa and Yamaha with Lorenzini’s three-man team of Gianluca Vizziello, Massimo Roccoli and Claudio Corti. Roccoli and Corti will be riding the new R1 SST.


En gros, ça dit que ces essais sont à ne pas manquer avec la présence de tous les acteurs principaux du championnat 2006. On y verra notamment le retour de troy Bayliss sur la Ducati, la présence des deux anciens coéquipiers Toseland, sur Honda et Laconi sur Kawa. Et puis il y aura tous les autres : Corser, Kagayama, Haga, Pitt, Walker, Lanzi (sur Ducati officielle donc) et Nieto sur Kawa. On notera aussi les débuts de Craig jones sur Petronas alors que son coéquipier Martin est toujours en convalescence.
On pourra voir rouler qq teams SS avec Javi Fores sur Suzuki, Seb Charpentier sur Honda et Steph Chambon et Pere Riba sur leur nouvelle Kawa. Il y'aura également Ducati avec Canepa et Yam avec trois pilotes.
Voila pour le principal. Vivement les chronos.

philaix
14/11/2005, 17h22
je n'ai toujours pas vu trainer de chrono, mais apparemment la météo n'a pas été au rdv donc séances sous la pluie.. :bad: ..donc peu de roulage certainement!

a suivre

chrisgaz
14/11/2005, 17h23
ben il pleuvait pour les essais motoGP, donc, pour le SBK, c est surement pareil.... ils sont sur le meme circuit...

toons
14/11/2005, 18h21
http://pix.crash.net/headline/185904.jpg



oui apparement il pleuvait vu que la photo est prise aujourd'hui à valence
et q'il porte une combinaison de pluie !!

http://pix.crash.net/thumbs/185898.jpg


toons

philaix
14/11/2005, 18h51
ben il pleuvait pour les essais motoGP, donc, pour le SBK, c est surement pareil.... ils sont sur le meme circuit...

d'une semaine à l'autre le temps peut changer :) même si là , ca n'a pas été le cas..

baylisstic
14/11/2005, 20h25
looooooooooooooool

nico
15/11/2005, 16h34
voici la news de Ducati datant d'hier soir concernant ces essais :

Troy Bayliss and Lorenzo Lanzi encountered cold and rainy conditions today on their first outing for the 2006 Ducati Xerox Team at Valencia as the first of two days of Pirelli winter testing for the top World Superbike squads was hit by bad weather.

36-year-old Australian Troy Bayliss was scheduled to ride the 999, after a three-year absence from the World Superbike Championship. The track and weather conditions today however were such that the team decided to keep Troy in the garage all day, hoping that the weather clears up tomorrow, in order to minimize any risk of further injury to his left wrist, which is still recovering from a motocross accident in September.

Lorenzo Lanzi, who has already had a stint in Ducati Xerox colours this year in the German Round at the Lausitzring, where he won race 2, completed 38 laps in the wet conditions. The 24-year-old Italian was quickest out of the few riders who dared venture onto the track in the wet, with a time of 1'54.5.

Ducati Xerox team manager Davide Tardozzi commented: "Unfortunately it rained today, but we used the time to help Lorenzo regain confidence in the wet. He did a great job, was very methodical and managed to achieve some good times at the end of the day. As for Troy, we preferred not to risk it. Tomorrow morning we'll decide what to do."

The Valencia test runs into its second and final day tomorrow Tuesday.


En gros il ne fait pas beau, comme noté ci-dessus. Du coup pour ne prendre aucun risque, Troy n'a pas roulé de la journée. Par contre Lanzi a fait 38 tours et fut le plus rapide des quelque téméraires pilotes qui ont osé rouler dans ces conditions.
Ils devraient tourner le second jour, soit aujourd'hui.

chrisgaz
15/11/2005, 17h13
merci nico, y a tjours pas de chrono?? et regis, tu sais s il a fait quelques tours sous la flotte??

nico
15/11/2005, 17h22
Ben non, je trouve rien d'autre pour le moment.

chrisgaz
15/11/2005, 17h31
merci...j espere qu on aura les resultats des tours qu ils ont fait aujourd hui....il faisait beau sur le circuit aujourd hui??

nico
15/11/2005, 17h39
Voici des news obtenues sur Crash net :

World Superbike Champion Troy Corser was left disappointed after his first winter test at Valencia proved to be a washout.

The Alstare Suzuki rider elected to go out on track on the opening day of the two day test but after only a handful of laps – and a small off – he elected to call it a day bringing his test to an end as prior commitments meant he was unavailable for the second day of the test today.

"It was pretty miserable out there and the track was very, very slippery," he said. "We didn't really have any new stuff to try, but we wanted to get some info on the different rain tyres and that's why I went out. I got flicked off the bike in the afternoon and banged my left hip a bit, so I decided not to carry on. My team mate Yukio didn't even do a lap - that's how bad the conditions were!

"Unfortunately, I couldn't do the second day of the tests, because I had an appointment at the Milan Show, so really it was all not as productive as it should have been."


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The opening day of a two-day Pirelli test session at Valencia gave James Toseland his first chance to sample the Ten Kate Honda CBR1000 Fireblade he will ride in the 2006 World Superbike championship, although wet conditions in Spain severely limited the amount of running as the test got underway.

While Karl Muggeridge elected not to take to the track, 2004 WSBK champion Toseland didn't pass up on the chance to get some time on his new machine ahead of next season and said he was happy with the way the day had gone.

"That was a good first day, really, in spite of the weather," he said. "The team has a good structure and they're a great bunch of guys. Although it was difficult in the conditions, I also got a feel for the balance of the bike and it feels pretty good. You have to be really smooth in the wet and very sensitive with the throttle so it gives you an idea of how the bike is behaving.

"Of course, I would have preferred it to be dry for a chance to get up to speed more quickly; but I still did 30 laps today. We're all hoping for some dry weather tomorrow so we can make a bit more progress."

Dutchman Jurgen van den Goorbergh was also out on the Ten Kate Supersport machine on a day team boss Ronald Ten Kate described as relaxed.

"The weather in Valencia today was not ideal but it gave the team and James a chance to get to know each other and for James to get to know the bike a little," he said. "The rain makes it a bit more relaxed because there's no pressure to go fast straight away. James has made some small adjustments to the riding position and got an early feel for the machine.

"Jurgen is one of a few riders on our shortlist for the second World Supersport ride and the only one who is available to test this week. We've been trying a new specification engine in the CBR and needed to turn the wheels on the bike, so Jurgen is the ideal rider to do that for us."

World Supersport champion Sébastien Charpentier joined Muggeridge in sitting out the opening day.


En gros, Troy Corser est un peu dégouté de sa première et seule journée de test du fait des conditions délicates (piste très glissante à cause de la pluie) et ne sera pas là le deuxième jour car il a un RDV en italie. Par contre chez Ten Kate, Toseland a fait une trentaine de tours avec sa nouvelle CBR sous la pluie et a apprécié ce premier contact qui lui permet tout de même de comprendre un peu les réactions de sa moto. Van den Goorbergh a testé la CBR 600 de ten Kate et semble être sur la liste en tant que second pilote aux côtés de Seb. Seb et Muggeridge n'ont pas roulé lors de ce premier jour.

philaix
15/11/2005, 20h14
Obligé d'aller fouiller sur le web pour trouver les chronos!

Ils sont meme pas capables de les afficher sur le site officiel ! :dechire:

Apparemment régis est à la traine de........ 4 secondes !!!! :bad:

1. Lanzi (Ducati Xerox) 1'35"7;
2. Bayliss (Ducati Xerox) 1'36"1;
3. Kagayama (Suzuki) 1'36"3;
4. Haga (Yamaha) 1'36"6;
5. Muggeridge (Honda) 1'36"9;
6. Walker (Kawasaki) 1'37"0;
7. Pitt (Yamaha) 1'37"2;
8. Nieto (Kawasaki) 1'37"3;
9. Toseland (Honda) 1'37"5;
10. Laconi (Kawasaki) 1'39"7.

FuryShoei
15/11/2005, 20h26
Oui mais il est dans le top 10 ! :)

nico
15/11/2005, 23h24
C'est peut être parce qu'ils sont 10 à tourner uniquement.
Non, mais sans déconner, les conditions semblaient tellement pourries que ces chronos ne veulent rien dire. La preuve Nieto est devant Régis, impossible en temps normal.

chrisgaz
16/11/2005, 08h26
bayliss, 2eme, pas mal pour un gars qui n a pas roulé en SBK cette année..

philaix
16/11/2005, 09h13
j'ai en trouvé d'autres plus complets :

Tempi SBK:
1) L. LANZI (Ducati) 1’35”700; 2) T. BAYLISS (Ducati) 1’36”100; 3) Y. KAGAYAMA (Suzuki) 1’36”300; 4) N. HAGA (Yamaha) 1’36”600; 5) K. MUGGERIDGE (Honda) 1’36”900; 6) C. WALKER (Kawasaki) 1’37”000; 7) A. PITT (Yamaha) 1’37”200; 8) F. NIETO (Kawasaki) 1’37”300; 9) J. TOSELAND (Honda) 1’37”500; 10) R. LACONI (Kawasaki) 1’39”700; 11) C. JONES (Petronas) 1’42”200.

Tempi SS:
1) S. CHARPENTIER (Honda) 1’38”200; 2) G. VIZZIELLO (Yamaha) 1’38”600; 3) F. FORET (Suzuki) 1’39”500; 4) J. VD GOORBERGH (Honda) 1’40”000; 5) W. DE ANGELIS (Yamaha) 1’41”100; 6) D. MARRANCONE (Yamaha) 1’41”400; 7) N. CANEPA (Ducati) 1’41”600.

Tempi SST 1000:
1) M. ROCCOLI (Yamaha) 1’37”900.

Tempi SST 600:
1) C. CORTI (Yamaha) 1’41”500.

Tempi IDM SBK:
1) M. SCHULTEN (Honda) 1’38”100; W. DAEMEN (Honda) 1’39”000; 2) J. TEUCHERT (MV Agusta) 1’39”400…

nico
16/11/2005, 09h45
Merci pour ces résultats. Finalement, Fab Foret aura rouler successivement en Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda et Suzuki. Et le pire c'est qu'il a été bon sur chacune de ces machines.

nico
16/11/2005, 16h25
Voici la news Ducati officielle pour le second jour :


VALENCIA TEST - DAY 2


The Ducati Xerox Team's 2006 riders Troy Bayliss and Lorenzo Lanzi finally got down to some dry-weather running as the conditions improved on the second and final day of Pirelli tyre testing for the top World Superbike teams at Valencia.

The two Ducati Xerox Team riders for 2006 set the quickest times over the two-day test, thus completing their official debut for the Italian factory team.

After yesterday's wash-out, when few riders ventured out onto the track in the wet, conditions were much improved today and Troy was able to ride his Ducati 999 for the first time, together with new team-mate Lorenzo Lanzi.

Troy Bayliss proved himself to be in perfect harmony with the new bike, and the 36-year-old Australian completed 49 laps to get used to a Ducati Superbike again after a three-year gap. Despite a still not entirely healed left wrist following a motocross accident in September, Troy was immediately on the pace and his time of 1'36.1 was good enough for second position behind Lanzi.

"It was a really good day," declared Troy, "and I was surprised how well my wrist stood up. I had a bit of pain on the brakes and when I pushed on the bars, but I still set some good lap times. I was really comfortable with the team and the bike felt like my old armchair! Now I just want to go away and get stronger and fitter for Qatar in three weeks' time."

After yesterday's debut in the wet, when he set quickest time, Lorenzo Lanzi continued to impress on the other Ducati Xerox 999. The 24-year-old Italian, winner of two races in his debut year in Superbike, repeated his form today, setting quickest time in 1'35.7.

"I am really pleased with my performance in these two days," commented Lanzi. "I did 38 laps yesterday and 57 today and I was the quickest overall, even though my motivation is still not at 100%. I like the 999 with the new suspension developments and the tyres as well, and yesterday we also had a good opportunity to lap in the wet, so I'm satisfied."

The Ducati Xerox Team's next and final testing session this year is scheduled for December 4-6 in the Gulf state of Qatar, the venue for the opening round of next year's championship.

Lorenzo Lanzi: 1'35.7
Troy Bayliss: 1'36.1

Troy a l'air à l'aise de nouveau sur sa bécane.
En gros, il a fait plus beau et les pilotes ont ainsi pu tourner un peu mieux. Troy est satisfait bien qu'il ai encore mal au freinage et a la mise sur l'angle. Lanzi est super content d'avoir signé le meilleur chrono des 2 jours et il annonce même qu'il n'était pas à 100 % motivé. Un peu grande gueule l'italien.
Le team fera des essais au Quatar début décembre.

nico
16/11/2005, 16h26
Philaix, pourrais tu récupérer les chronos du second jour ?

toons
16/11/2005, 19h15
je penses que les chronos ne veulent rien dire
ils aprivoise tous leurs motos

toons

philaix
16/11/2005, 20h36
Philaix, pourrais tu récupérer les chronos du second jour ?

ce sont les chronos du second jour puisque le premier jour il pleuvait trop pour tenter un eventuel chrono.

A titre d'info Corser n'était là que le premier jour et il n'apparait pas dans les chronos.

@+

nico
17/11/2005, 10h10
OK merci.