WSBK Donigton park

[Laurent_bis]

merci, jéavais pas vu l'info passée

[macadamkenny]

Je trouve assez irresponsable de la part de l'organisation de Donington de ne pas avoir annulé la deuxième manche, c'était bien trop dangeureux de laisser rouler dans ces conditions, par exemple le virage en bas de la descente était recouvert d'une flaque d'eau, et de plus ce circuit permet à pas d'endroit aux pilotes de revenir sur la piste en "coupant" après une petite sortie, et au premier tour ca a failli mal tourner... Et a mes yeux c'est regretable de ne pas tenir compte de l'avis des pilotes dans ces conditions, quand on voit comment Corser s'est acherné pour stopper la course, un gars comme lui qui a de l'experience et du vécu, si il lève la mains pendant 3 tours d'affilé c'est pas pour rien, c'est qu'il trouve ca vraiment dangeureux... C'est triste de voir comment la mort d'un pilote est vite oublié après un mois seulement...

[Laurent_bis]

Je suis assez d'accord avec toi, mais j'ai vu seulement Corser lever la main, bayliss et Kionary devant ont pas du tout broncher, et pour ca bayliss est plutot responsable.
Difficile de se mettre a leur place, en premier manche ils étaient nombreux a avoir levé la main donc c'etait plus légitime.

[webamanu]

Je viens de voir la seconde manche et effectivement les conditions était désastreuse.

Cependant, je ne pense qu'il aurait fallut annulé cette manche. Les conditions de course était clair dès le départ et les pilotes sont suffisamment responsable pour ne pas prendre de risque inutiles. Je pense que des conditions de piste séchante ou lorsque la pluie fait son apparition en course sont plus dangereuse, comme en première manche.

Pour Corser, c'était pas son week-end c'est tout et je crois qu'il c'est crashé 7 ou 8 fois durant les trois jours. Pas étonnant qu'il ait voulut abrégé s'est souffrance.

[Gaz&Slide]

6 crashs pour Corser ce weekend... Malgré tout, j'ai souvenir de manches annulées en SBK pour des raisons identiques (Phillip Island 2001, Silverstone 2006 ou 2007) et il faut bien avouer que dans certains virages, il y avait des petits ruisseaux qui traversaient la piste. Un mois après le décès de Jonesy, si la direction de course avait choisi d'annuler la 2ème manche, il n'y aurait pas eu à crier au scandale. Malgré plusieurs actions limites (Ellison qui patine au départ, des pilotes qui sortent de la piste et se retrouvent pleine trajectoire le virage d'après...), pas de dégâts, ouf.....

[manu94600]

On a eu droit a une 1ére manche de merci a eurosport pour nous avoir ni** alors qu'il annoncer l' us open ba on a eu le droit a la 1ére manche sont comique

Encore un week-end est Bayliss sera sacrée
Biaggi qui fait un podium sans le savoir

Faut t-il panneauté Biaggi a l'avenir ?

Le SBK devrait recruté en BSB je trouve même si bien sur c'est plus facile pour eux a domicile y'a qu'a voir Kiyonari

J'suis j'ai pas pu voir la Gsx-r Cup

[Slimdean]

Team Alstare Suzuki news
2008 Superbike World Championship
Round 11, Donington, UK
Sunday 7th September
Circuit: 4.023 kms. Weather: Race 1: Mostly dry, Race 2: Wet


DISAPPOINTMENT AT DONINGTON.

Team Suzuki Alstare riders Fonsi Nieto and Yukio Kagayama and Team Alstare Suzuki rider Max Neukirchner were happy to leave Donington Park after a difficult weekend, but unhappy with the results. The heavy rain on Friday and Saturday gave way to a mostly dry track in the first race, but then came back with a vengeance in the second. Yukio and Fonsi finished 5th and 7th in race one, which was a two-parter because of a red-flag, but Max crashed out ofcontention when he highsided after hitting a puddle of water.
Just before the start of race two, the heavens opened, causing all riders to change from a dry set-up, to rain-tyres and a wet set-up. The conditions were atrocious and there were thirteen retirements, including Fonsi, in the soggy 23-lapper. Yukio and Max struggled throughout, with Max ending 14th and Yukio 19th.
Troy Bayliss (Ducati) won race one, with ‘wild card’ Tom Sykes (Suzuki) second and Max Biaggi (Ducati) third. Ryuichi Kiyonari (Honda) dominated race two and ran out a comfortable winner ahead of another ‘wild card’, Cal Crutchlow (Honda), with Troy Corser (Yamaha) third.

Yukio - Race 1: 5th, Race 2: 19th
This day was very difficult, just like the whole weekend! I am almost pleased with fifth position in the first race, but for me, fifth is not good enough! Because we had no dry rack time, we had to guess what dry settings to use and so the bike was not as good as it could’ve been. So I think that to finish fifth after qualifying 24th is maybe not so bad. In race two, we changed to full wets and a wet set-up after the rain came down while we were on the grid and I always knew it would be a very long and difficult 23 laps. Just like Friday and Saturday, I could feel no grip at the rear, so I just had to ride round and try and get to the end of the race. This is not my style and so I am not happy, but when you feel the bike aquaplaning and slipping in the corners, it is hard to ride. Our engineers now have a lot of data to analyse and think about and I hope that they find solutions to our problems.

Fonsi - Race 1: 7th, Race 2: DNF
Like everybody else, I think, I used slicks on the front and rear in race one and although we didn’t have a good dry set-up, I managed 7th, which is not to bad considering I started from 23rd on the grid. I would prefer to forget race two! All weekend we’ve had problems with rear grip and we never found any set-up that worked well. I really found it hard just keeping upright in race two and after 18 laps I decide to pull in because otherwise I am sure I would’ve crashed. For me this was a weekend to forget.


Max - Race 1: DNF, Race 2: 14th
Not all of the track was dry in the first race and I was a bit unlucky because I hit a puddle and high-sided and that was that. Our dry set-up was a gamble, because there had not been any dry track time in the past two days and we had to take a chance - like everybody else. But still, I was angry because I had crashed and could not continue. The conditions in race two were very difficult and the track was very, very slippery and I had no rear grip at all - just like yesterday and Friday! When the rain fell while we were on the grid, we had to put on wet tyres and soften the suspension, but it wasn’t anyway near a good set-up and I struggled throughout the race. It has been a frustrating weekend for us all, so I hope the next round in Vallelunga will be better - and dry!

Results
Race 1: 1 Bayliss (Aus-Ducati), 2 Sykes (GB-Suzuki), 3 Biaggi (I-Ducati), 4 Lavilla (E-Honda), 5 Yukio Kagayama (J-Suzuki Alstare), 6 Smrz (CZ-Ducati), 7 Fonsi Nieto (E-Suzuki Alstare), 8 Haslam (GB-Honda), 9 Muggeridge (Aus-Honda), 10 Ellison (GB-Honda), Max Neukirchner (D-Alstare Suzuki) DNF,
Race 2: 1 Kiyonari (J-Honda), 2 Crutchlow (GB-Honda), 3 Corser (Aus-Yamaha), 4 Ellison, 5 Fabrizio (I-Ducati), 6 Biaggi, 7 Lavilla, 8 Xaus (E-Ducati), 9 Checa (E-Honda), 10 Sykes, 14 Max Neukirchner (D-Alstare Suzuki), 19 Yukio Kagayama (J-Suzuki Alstare), Fonsi Nieto (E-Suzuki Alstare) DNF,

Points: 1 Bayliss 359, 2 Corser 258, 3 Max Neukirchner 254, 4 Checa 240, 5 Haga 230, 6 Fonsi Nieto 192, 7 Biaggi 192, 8 Kiyonari 190, 9 Fabrizio 172, 10 Xaus 156, 11 Yukio Kagayama 120,

[Slimdean]

Mais !!!

Team Alstare Suzuki news
2008 Superstock 1000 FIM Cup
Round 8, Donington, UK
Sunday 7th September
Circuit: 4.023 kms. Crowd: Conditions: Wet, 16C.


XAVI IN SUPERB CONTROL!


Team Alstare Suzuki rider Xavi Simeon superbly controlled the eighth round of the Superstock 1000 FIM Cup race at Donington today, running out a comfortable winner by over sixteen seconds. The young Belgian shadowed early leader Polita for the first five laps, then swept past on lap six and immediately began to pull out a gap on the Italian. Lap by lap, he increased his lead and never looked in trouble on his way to his second victory of the season. With series leader Roberts (Ducati) finishing in fourth, Xavi is now only two points behind with two rounds remaining.

Xavi - 1st
I had the feeling that this would be a good day for us and I am very happy about the win. After the disaster at Brands Hatch in the last round, I knew I really had to win today to keep my title hopes alive. The track was wet, but it wasn’t raining and parts of it did sort of dry up towards the end of the race, but not enough to cause a dry line. I followed Polita for a few laps, to see where he went and how the track was and then made my move on lap six. After I went past, there was no response from him and I was able to increase my lead bit by bit. Towards the end, I had a big gap, so I knew that all I had to do was keep my concentration and the victory would be mine. Now I am only two points behind Roberts and I feel that I can go to Magny-Cours and go all-out for another win.


Results
1 Xavi Simeon (B-Alstare Suzuki), 2 Polita (I-Ducati), 3 Giugliano (I-Suzuki), 4 Roberts (Aus-Ducati), 5 Kirkham (GB-Yamaha), 6 Berger (F-Honda)

Points: 1 Roberts 122, 2 Xavi Simeon (B-Alstare Suzuki) 120, 3 Berger 11, 4 Polita 114, 5 PIRA 83, 6 Giugliano 71,

[Slimdean]

Par contre, je ne sais pas pourquoi Haga a pris un black flag ???

Faux départ ? Mauvais dépassement ? Solidarité avec Lewis Hamilton ?

[Laurent_bis]

Haga a eu un drive through ( par contre je sais pas pour quelle raison) et je crois qu 'il ne l'a pas respecté, c'est pour ca je crois qu 'il a eu un drapeau noir.
tout ca au conditionnel..