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theophil 18/05/2006 14h36

Rossi gets new chassis for Le Mans.
 
Rossi gets new chassis for Le Mans.

After struggling to solve the YZR-M1's chatter problems at the first four rounds of the 2006 season - reigning MotoGP world champion Valentino Rossi will be given a new chassis for this weekend's French Grand Prix at Le Mans.

Camel Yamaha has been unable to fix the speed-limiting vibration problem using set-up changes alone, prompting Rossi to initially ask if the proven, vibration-free, 2005 chassis could be fitted to the new 2006 engine.

That wasn't possible, but Yamaha has now done the next best thing by designing a new chassis which aims to replicate the handling characteristics of the 2005 M1. However, debuting the new design on a grand prix weekend is a clear risk - it will take time for Rossi and Camel Yamaha to understand, set-up and exploit the new design - and probably indicates that riders and team have lost hope of curing the original 2006 chassis.

Indeed, Rossi - who was knocked down at the first turn in Spain, won next time out at Qatar, took fourth in Turkey and then suffered a tyre failure last weekend at Shanghai - simply can't afford to lose many more points, after slipping 32 behind world championship leader Nicky Hayden.

"Sunday was the second time in the first four races that we've scored virtually zero points and on both occasions it hasn't been our fault," reflected Rossi. "Luck has definitely not been on our side but the most important thing now is to sort our problems out as soon as possible because we have a run of important races coming up - starting at Le Mans. The next four or five rounds in Europe are the 'main course' of the season and it is a critical time for us."

"After such a difficult start, which nonetheless has given us one win with Valentino and Colin's recent podium, I hope the next few weeks in Europe will be like a new beginning to the season for us," said team director Davide Brivio. "The races coming up are crucial but all we can do is keep our heads down and continue to work hard on solving the problems we have found this year.

"The engineers at Yamaha have been working very hard to make sure that is the case and Valentino will have a new chassis available from the first practice session on Friday," confirmed Brivio. "We will compare it with the current one and will decide later if we will use it or not. We will also remain there for a test on Monday to continue with our development.

"Last year we had a very good weekend at Le Mans, which finished with both of our riders on the podium, so it would be nice to repeat that result! If we can shake off the bad luck that has been following us around the world recently then we have plenty of reason to be confident," he concluded.

One thing that could work in the team's favour this weekend is that, according to Rossi's chief mechanic Jeremy Burgess, there are no hidden secrets to the track in terms of machine set-up.

"Le Mans as a circuit is probably the least technical on the whole calendar – it doesn't really have any stand-out features or characteristics that set it out from the rest, certainly not in a positive way," said JB. "You need good acceleration out of the slow corners, which is why we struggled there on our first visit with the M1 in 2004 because we were trying out new engines before tackling the true horsepower tracks like Barcelona, Mugello and Assen.

"Last year we had a fully-developed bike so we were able to make the minor adjustments that this circuit requires and both Valentino and Colin were fast. Clearly with so much hard braking you need firmer fork settings and spring rates on the front, and then a slightly softer spring on the rear so that the rider can hold his line on the exit. That's it really - there are no secrets to Le Mans!"

theophil 18/05/2006 14h37

Rossi et le team risque de perdre beaucoup de temps avec ce chassis ... surtout si la course a lieu sous la pluie, ce qui est probable, le chassis 2006 fonctionnant pas trop mal dans ce cas de figure.

ps : je pensais que Rossi avait eu ce nouveau chassis a Changai ?

Anonymous 18/05/2006 14h49

il a eu un hybride a shangai...

Mais bon comme tu dis si ils voient qu il pleut ils remmettront le 2006 et garderont le developpement du nouveau pour lundi après course.

breizhou 18/05/2006 16h02

il y a seq essai lundi

webamanu 18/05/2006 16h02

Il me semble que le chassis hybride à Shangaï c'était la moto d' Edwards, cadre 2006 avec un bras ooscillant de 2005. Rossi avait quand à lui un chassis complètement 2006. Mais bon, mes propos sont à prendre au conditionnel.

breizhou 18/05/2006 16h04

desolé je voulais dire des essai

Tetrelinette 18/05/2006 17h06

ouais et puis les post en anglais c'est un peu chaud c'est relou

philaix 18/05/2006 17h50

En tout cas s'ils décident d'utiliser ce chassis, ca va etre un sacré chantier.

Trois séances libres, une qualif et un warmup pour régler une "presque" nouvelle moto, bonjour le travail !

Ca donnera un peu plus de piment, meme si à ce niveau on est bien gaté cette année !

larticho 18/05/2006 18h56

et les jours sont des alternances de pluie et de sec, je leur souhaite bon courage...

Tetrelinette 08/06/2006 15h40

Re : Rossi gets new chassis for Le Mans.
 
Bon alors quelques précision sur la Yamaha degoté dans le moto-journal de today....


En fait la nouvelle mot qu'utilise Rossi depuis le mans (et Edwards au mugello en partie et TECH3 surement a barcelone) est une base 2005 modifié. Elle se compose du meme ensemble reservoir-selle que la moto 2005. De plus Rossi utilise les michelin de 2005 a profil avant plus etroit et cela ne l'a pas empecher de gagner. En fait dans le canard ils disent que Honda a vu que sa moto 2006 etait pas super donc l'a laissé en developpement à HAYDEN et pour tous les autres pilotes Honda ils sont repartis sur une base 2005 ce qui les a obligés a rapatrié les chassis 2005 qui étaient partis dans differents salons d'exposition.....
Et chez Yam ils ne pouvaient pas remettre des pieces de la 2006 sur la 2005 donc ils ont décidé de prendre une base 2005 et de la modifié. Mais ca ne veux pas dire que le chassis 2006 est a la poubelle....
Et puis il parait que les difference entre la 2005 et la 2006 sont minimis donc c'est pour ca que Yam a mis du temps a comprendre....
Et au mugello Rossi n'a meme pas eu de "chattering" en qualif..... Et il a couru avec des pneus plus tendre que ses concurrents



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